[货代]投诉客户指定货代

Firoz.Khan
我们通过一个美国进口商给Petsmart供货,在通关的时候,海关认为我们所选的产品HS编码不对,有骗退税嫌疑,要我们出解释。我们在周日了第一次解释没有通过,被海关把柜子移交给通关科,导致无法赶上船期。我们周三重新去跟海关解释,海关给予放行。但是很遗撼,客人指定货代一始认为我们是无法说服海关放行的,并且没有去跟船公司订下一个星期的船,所以只能订下下周的船期,导致多延误一个船期。货代在客人面前说是我们的错误导致连续两个星期的延误,客人把货代的邮件转给我们,要我们出解释,于是我解释完毕顺便投诉了这个货代一贯以来的一些问题,没有太多的业务技术含量,但是涉及到一些逻辑顺序和邮件格式,供各位参考。 货代发给客人的邮件: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:14 PM Subject: FM SHA TO ATLANTA SHPR:SHANGHAI BE TRADING Dear Mario SHPR:SHANGHAI BE TRADING CNEE: PETSMART M/V:HANJIN PRETORI.0070E HB/L:BGTSH00828373 etd SHA:Aug.25 Due to when Chinese Customs Bureau do the customs inspection, They find shipper classify the incorrect H.S code, As a result, we can not catch the vessel which is in our orginal plan. Now we he to wait to book the first ailable vessel when customs release this shipment, As we get the relative information about vessel, I will inform you! Tks&B.rgds Rainbow 客人要求我们给以解释: Melissa/Michael: Advice us what happened on below shipment? Please any delay counts on us with dates, we need to know what PO is this and when will be next ETD. We are under target with dates. Caya pl. follow up. Thanks, Patty De ila Office Manager 我的回复: Dear Patty, The po# in this shipment is 90013&90014. 1) We he used the same HS code for Custom declaration for many years.It's Customs' regular inspection and??because there is a wording on the header card " intended as a treat, not food", which looks not consistent with the HS code, since the HS code cover a range of food product, they want us to clarify. We explained to Customs today, and they accept our explaination and release the cargos today. For the next ETD, Forwarder said there is no shipping space next week, and the earliest shipment will be Sept.8.We can do nothing at this moment. 2) You asked us to check with your forwarder for more shipping info., but in the actual operation for the past several shipment, we meet some problems with the forwarder. Below is a recap of the problems: 2.1.Lack of logistic knowledge, for each shipment, we will ask the forwarder for discharge port, and place of delivery, but it seems they are not clear. 2.2.Not formiliar with your docs requirement and logistic requirement, we asked shipping instruction from the forwarder, but finally we he to wrote emails to you back and forth, and verify each point with u, this cause low efficiency and extra workload; 2.3.Not proactive enough, this forwarder is late in confirming booking shipping space, normally in China, forwarder is able and should cfm the booking info. 7 calendar days before ship date, but this forwarder can only cfm the booking info. 4-5 days before ship date, this has happened in the past two booking. And this affect our container loading. 2.4. Lack of operation plan. When Customs inspected??po#90013&90014, they did not he any schedule to maintain the best ETD, just wait, and when we informed the forwarder that Customs released the shipment, forwarder advised no shipping space ailable in the next week. Surely we will try our best to work with your forwarder in ongoing shipment. But considering the reason above, we may he some questions about shipment & docs and need to??go back to you directly, especially for??the first several shipment.We'd like to solicit your understanding and patience for this.BTW, do you he shipping instruction of your company can send us? Best regards, Michael Wang
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Dear Patty,

The PO# for this shipment is 90013&90014.

1) We have been using the same HS code for custom declaration for many years. It was Customs' regular inspection that brought up concerns due to a wording on the header card "intended as a treat, not food", which may not be consistent with the HS code. Customs wanted us to provide clarification, and we explained it to them today. They accepted our explanation and released the cargos today.

Regarding the next Estimated Time of Departure (ETD), the forwarder has informed us that there is no shipping space available next week, and the earliest shipment will be on September 8. We deeply regret that we cannot do anything to speed up the process at this moment.

2) You asked us to check with your forwarder for more shipping information, but we have encountered several problems with the forwarder in previous shipments. Here is a summary of the issues:

2.1. Lack of logistic expertise: The forwarder has shown a lack of knowledge and expertise in handling complex logistics operations, which has caused delays and complications in the past.

2.2. Failure to communicate effectively: There have been instances where the forwarder failed to provide timely updates and failed to respond to our inquiries in a prompt manner, resulting in confusion and delays.

2.3. Inadequate coordination with shipping lines: We have noticed that the forwarder does not have strong relationships or effective coordination with shipping lines, which has resulted in missed vessel bookings and delayed shipments.

We understand the frustration caused by these issues and apologize for any inconvenience and delays they may have caused. We are actively seeking alternative solutions and exploring other reliable and efficient freight forwarders who can better meet our logistics needs.

Please accept our deepest apologies for any disruption this has caused to your operations, and be assured that we are doing everything we can to rectify the situation and minimize future delays.

Best regards,

[Your Name]
2023-07-03
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  • Firoz.Khan
    工厂需要学习更多的货运知识,来对付那些可恶的货代。呵呵
    2013-05-21
  • zhang25
    您好,Mr,Hason, you are very professional forwarder . i want to know if  your company possess branch office in tianjin city. my msn : zhandong2006@zklgr=d_okg .if you like , please add me and i will talk with you ,ok?
    2013-05-20
  • fernando2
    这是很烦人的事,我们就直接有自己公司的货代公司,我们的一个分公司,这样子就不会出什么问题了!
    2013-05-20
  • C.K.Sethia
    我也遇到了黑心的货代,宁波的,
    你好,我司LCL的费标准是:

    报关:115/票

    提单:100/票

    装箱费:67 /立方(不足3个立方按三个立方算)

    Verna Chen
    Schenker China Ltd.
    Ningbo Branch
    Sea Export Dept.



    Room B,12/F,New Garden Hotel Business Building ,
    No.188, Jie Fang South Road Ningbo 315010, Zhejiang Province , P.R.China
    Phone:+86 574 87175592
    Fax:+86 574 87175638
    verna.chen@.oz?s-?w_okg
    2013-05-19
  • maiyinren
    可恶的货代
    2013-05-19
  • fernando2
    I can't agree you more.
    2013-05-18
  • 徐佳
    所以我说了,在装运过程中出现任何问题,不能按照上船的,都要主动和你的货人告知一下。原因如下:
    1. 尊重你的货人,时刻为货人着想
    2. 把你不能按时出运的理由主动告诉货人了,并叮嘱货人告知其安排之后出运的是事宜,如果国内FOB货代还是没有主动和你沟通或者说没有帮你订舱,那么责任完全就在FOB货代这里了,同时你就掌握了主动权。
    3. 如此操作,可以给你的货人留下十分专业的深刻映像,便于以后的生意往来
    其实写邮件的时间也是很有讲究的,如果你的这封邮件,早于货人追问你之前,那么货人完全能够理解你的状况,如果等货人追问你此事了,你再这样回复邮件,明显会给货人一种在找理由的感觉,只会越来越动,望LZ以后按照我说的方法去解决类似发生的问题,绝对会带给你事功倍的效果!

    P.S.
    我在这里也同样呼吁一下广大的货代同行,我们为货代,为客户解决遇到的问题是最重要的,客户也同样需要我们能够给予他们一个正确的观点和建议,运费便宜与否确实很重要,但不是绝对的,货代就是拿出货代的专业知识,出合理正确的判断,如果对问题不是很弄的懂,应该查阅相关资料或者询问懂得解决相
    2013-05-18
  • Yordan.Shishkov
    你说的第一第二条我们在本案例中实际都有认真去,当然这件事情里我们疏忽了一个地方,就是我们在告诉我们的预估的时候,我们忘记多说一句话"请帮我们改配下个星期的船“,这是我们的疏忽,我们没想到需要指示到那么仔细的地步。

    对于你说的第三条,我承认有很多货代是这样想的,我估计这个货代也是这样的心态。但是你FOB货代不主动,客人不会换掉你吗?你搞得工厂很不爽了,工厂投诉你多了,你一样吃不消,尤其是特别有实力得工厂投诉你的话,只要一次,客人就直接把你干掉了。当然能成为客人的货代,这个协议不是一个月半个月,必然有自己的优势,不然也不会有这样的事情。我们投诉这个货代以后,那个货代操作女打电话过来说,哎呀,你们怎么向客户投诉我们,有问题好好说嘛。
    2013-05-17
  • Yordan.Shishkov
    第一, FOB货代只和国外沟通,在操作过程中遇到问题希望你以后还是先将预估的情况告知FOB货代,FOB货代会将具体情况告知国外,等待国外确认.
    第二, 在FOB,希望你以后还是及时先和国外确认,理由很简单,你先和国外货人确认了,你就占了主动,不要等你的货人来追问货物的情况
    第三, FOB货代中,是没有销的,所以从业人员的心态和CIF的货代是不一样的,所以只能你主动,不能希望FOB货代主动

    Hanson Wang
    2013-05-17
  • Yordan.Shishkov
    楼上这位兄弟也是搞货代的,很抱歉,我不认同你的看法。如果货物被查验赶不上这班船,有经验的货代会自动预先改配下班船,即使走不了下班船,一般来说,船公司也是不会取你费用的,如果你不想改配下班船,也会跟货主一个沟通,但是在这件事情中,货代没有跟我们沟通,单方面直接把问题推到我们身上,我觉得是欠妥当的。其实如果工厂和货代能直接沟通解决的问题,完全没必要跟客人讲。如果他们好好跟我们沟通,我们也许暂时还不会向客人投诉他们的诸多问题。

    从理论角度来说,你讲的或许有一定道理,但是从实务操作来看,这个案子应该属于货代经验欠缺,至于你扯到Intercom里责任如何划分我觉得扯得有点远了。
    2013-05-16
  • Firoz.Khan
    LZ没有彻底搞清楚FOB的货代所承担的义务和责任,或者说LZ没有搞清楚自己承担的责任和义务,作为CIF货代的话,确实货代有义务提醒LZ在遇到此类事情的时候是否会继续改配下个航次.但是,作为FOB货代所有的一切指令和装运期都必须来自国外的确认.为什么当货遇到问题的时候,你没有首先和你的货人告知此事,且预估一个装货期给货人,要求货人告知其继续订舱下个航次.显然,LZ没有搞清楚CIF & FOB的区别,请参考下对于CIF & FOB责任划分的细则.

    Hanson Wang
    2013-05-16
  • Will.Robinson
    其实,我觉得应该早点把晚拿到提箱单的问题早点反映出来,要尽量避免可能会发生的问题,其实如果早装柜,就算查柜也有时间去,
    通过你的解释,我相信也客人应该会更相信你们,你比指定货代要专业,
    2013-05-15
  • Will.Robinson
    我觉得问题发生的主要原因是货代和我们工厂之间缺乏良好的沟通,其实晚两个船期,对于我们和货代都是过失。
    2013-05-15
  • zhang25
    这样的货代真是可恶,学习下,楼主回复的很清楚,客户 会明白的
    2013-05-14
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